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@ 2007-01-15 – 15:43:39
At present, I believe these are both true.
The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain.
-Karl Marx
Skin is beautiful, don't ruin it with scars just because your life isn't as beautiful. For once life becomes beautiful to you again, your skin wont be so beautiful anymore.
-Meg
The_Walrus
Pro I think that first one just shows you how stupid Marx actually was. See Karl Popper for detailed demolition job...
I would argue that Marx was not altogether Stupid, people disagree with him but to call the man stupid is a little harsh don't you think.?
The_Walrus
Pro Well perhaps not altogether stupid, but what he wrote was to blame for an awful lot of problems when people believed it. Popper really does nail Marxism rather nicely. I will slap my wrist for the ad hominem attack....
Whitty
I think you can look at it two ways - was he a preacher or an analylist? - i.e. when he says 'the only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain' does he actually mean that he would advise people with mental pain to harm themself physically. Or is he trying to express the way he / people feel when they are in a state of physical pain? If its the first, I agree he should have been responsible for an awful lot of problems.... I posted earlier as a knee jerk reaction when I was feeling quite low. I've since been to see my therapist (who I'm sure is magic!) and whilst I still feel rough, I think what I actually felt was 'The only way I can alleviate my mental suffering right now is through physical pain'.
all taken with a pinch of salt Mr Walrus....peace to you
I think that mental suffers turns into physical pain if the anguish is deep and heart-felt
I think both are true...you ok whitty?
Whitty
I am thanx. I've been feeling properly low for the first time in ages (been to see my (magic!) therapist this eve though and feeling a bit more on form. The ups and downs of life hey?!
yes.....indeed! I just take each day as it comes now....no knowing what the morrow will bring! good luck with your therapist....hope it all sorts stuff out for you...hugs...
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a good way to clear the brain is physical exercise, which of course can be a bit painfull...
the second is sooo true,.. the person(s) has great form and is it'self derived from those physical attributes some regards as ugly.. so there contradiction here me think.